That is the transcript of an interview hosted on Ruth’s Really feel Higher. Stay Free. podcast.
Ruth Soukup: It’s no secret that I’m not a giant fan of prescription drugs, or the way in which massive pharma, and large meals for that matter, haven’t solely corrupted the well being trade, however immediately induced the large well being and weight problems disaster on this nation. And whereas we discuss quite a bit right here on this podcast about how one can begin therapeutic your physique by consuming the proper issues, One factor we don’t actually discuss is what pure alternate options exist for changing the medicine which might be nonetheless taking on area in your medication cupboard.
That’s why I’m so enthusiastic about in the present day’s episode. If nothing else, it’s undoubtedly going to present you some critical meals for thought. So let’s dig in.
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Hey there, and welcome again to the Really feel Higher Stay Free podcast. For these of you who don’t know me, my identify is Ruth Soukup and I’m the founding father of Thinlicious and the creator of the Skinny Tailored System, in addition to the New York Occasions bestselling creator of seven books. And in the present day we’re going to be chatting with my good friend, Heidi Villegas, who’s a passionate herbalist with over 20 years of expertise, in addition to an aromatherapist and a homesteader.
And he or she has not solely been capable of heal her personal physique naturally and remove the entire medicines from her life, she now teaches individuals all over the world learn how to use herbs as medication. And he or she’s fairly superb. And in the present day she’s going to be strolling us by means of what that really seems to be like. And I gotta inform you, that is actually one of many, my favourite conversations that I’ve ever had on this podcast up to now.
It’s fairly enjoyable. We get a little bit heated generally it’s, but it surely’s fairly good. So with out additional ado, I’m excited to have the ability to introduce you to in the present day’s interview visitor, Heidi Villegas. Heidi, thanks a lot for being right here in the present day. I’m so excited to speak to you.

Heidi Villegas: Thanks Ruth. I’m thrilled to be right here.
Thanks a lot for having me on.
Ruth Soukup: You’re welcome. And you already know, individuals don’t, won’t know this, however you and I’ve recognized one another for a really very long time. You’ve been in my enterprise packages for a very long time and been in my mastermind and all these things. So we had a lot of alternatives to speak in regards to the enterprise facet of what you do, however I haven’t truly had that a lot time to speak to you about just like the precise nitty gritty of what you do, which is definitely very cool.
So why don’t we simply begin like, give us a fast overview of who you might be, what you do, after which we’ll dive in.
Heidi Villegas: Okay so I’m Heidi Villegas and I’m the founding father of Therapeutic Harvest Homestead and likewise the Faculty of Botanical Arts and Sciences. I’m an herbalist, and I’ve been an herbalist now for about 20 years, after which I received into aromatherapy in all probability about, oh, 5 – 6 years in the past, and received educated in that.
However I got here into this with some actually critical well being points, and I used to be doing every part proper, I assumed. And I found medicinal herbs sort of by chance. And there’s an entire story behind that, however I received’t go into it. However anyway, that’s what spurred my curiosity in medicinal crops. And I used to be capable of heal my physique from, oh my goodness, so many various well being points.
And plenty of of them have been associated. They have been like unintended effects of the totally different well being points I used to be having and the medicines I used to be on. And so as soon as I received off every part, It’s, I’m 60 years previous and I really feel higher now than after I was 40. Despite the fact that I used to be like fitter again then, you already know, so I now train individuals learn how to use these medicinal herbs and God gave us the herbs.
He gave us the crops for our meals and medication. And we as a collective society have forgotten learn how to use them. So I simply helped carry that again.
Ruth Soukup: I really like that. I really like that. Effectively, and you already know, as you in all probability know, I believe, however I’m not a giant fan of massive pharma. So I really like something that’s different. And but I don’t know, like herbalist, that seems like such a like fancy time period.
So inform me, like, inform me, clarify to me, what’s an herbalist?
Heidi Villegas: So, and that is so humorous as a result of lots of people will research herbs and begin utilizing pure cures. and making their very own pure cures. And so they hesitate to name themselves an herbalist as a result of it does appear sort of like excessive finish, fancy, no matter.
The fact is anyone who works with medicinal herbs is an herbalist. I imply, for those who’re a gardener and also you develop mint in your yard and you utilize that for natural teas, effectively, you already know, to an extent you’re an herbalist. Yeah. And many individuals, it’s enjoyable. I prefer it. So, and many individuals as soon as they begin studying extra deeply in regards to the medicinal crops, they go on to assist different individuals.
That’s thrilling.
Ruth Soukup: Yeah. So what is taken into account a medicinal plant? Like what are the totally different, or like that ones that individuals would have heard of?
Heidi Villegas: Okay there are literally thousands of them, initially, and yeah, lots of them are literally the meals that you’ve in your kitchen proper now. For instance cinnamon is an unbelievable medicinal herb in various alternative ways, many makes use of for it.
Lavender, garlic peppermint, rosemary, oregano your Italian spice seasoning. That is so humorous. A good friend of mine was telling me that her son who’s in school. Began having an sickness and she or he mentioned, simply go to the physician. Now she’s one in every of my college students and she or he was nervous about him. He says, no, as a result of I’m not going to take an antibiotic and I’m not going to take a steroid.
I really like this child. Precisely. Effectively, I, she’s been my pupil for a extremely very long time. So she like is aware of, she goes, look, go to the grocery retailer. Get your, get the Italian spice seasoning and do an natural steam. And that’s going to, you already know, assist launch every part and enable you heal up. He did it. He felt higher like actually inside a day.
So, wow. Yeah. Many individuals simply don’t understand how these herbs are so at our fingertips and Huge Pharma doesn’t need us to learn about them.
Ruth Soukup: No, they don’t.
Heidi Villegas: No, for those who have a look at the historical past of drugs, like, you already know, the AMA, the American Medical Affiliation in society, it’s actually fairly sickening. And it began way back, actually again within the 1800s.
And if you wish to return even farther and get into, I hate the phrase, the patriarchy and all of that, you would take this all the way in which again into the 1500s with the witch trials and issues like that. They have been wow. Yeah. There’s a, all the way in which again to that. Yeah. It’s a captivating historical past.
However in fashionable society you already know, the American Medical Affiliation, the FDA, the medical health insurance trade, and naturally massive pharma, mainly simply crushed herbalism and herbalist. Herbalism was once authorized in our nation to practices of medical modality, and it not is. They’ve taken it away from the individuals.
So yeah, so herbalists now, like after I work with shoppers, I’m not practising medication or any type of different medical well being. What I say is I’m not a health care provider. And. I don’t diagnose. I don’t prescribe. I don’t treatment. I don’t deal with, however we assist the physique’s pure therapeutic processes. So we sort of have skirted across the language.
Yeah, however
Ruth Soukup: yeah, oils are sort of like that a little bit bit too, which I’ve been utilizing, you already know, important oils for. 10 years, 12 years, one thing like that. And I’ve, however I’ve, I discover it irritating you can’t get like good solutions, proper? Like for those who Google it, every part is so throttled to search out out like what important oil will do which factor due to every part that they’re allowed or not allowed to say.
And even like what I ended up doing was shopping for previous books, like books from, I don’t know, the Nineteen Eighties and Nineties. 90s. I’d discover them on eBay or Amazon or no matter. And so they have been costly as a result of there’s not very lots of them as a result of different individuals have finished the identical factor, however from earlier than they began actually throttling what you’re allowed to say about these totally different important oils.
In order that I, simply in order that I might know learn how to use them and what to make use of for various issues. So how do you. How do you get round that? Like, after which that’s the half that’s so like, I believe a little bit bit overwhelming for me. And possibly if any person is listening, going, sure, I need to use herbs, but when I don’t know what to do, then how is that going to assist me?
So how do you get round that to really like be taught what issues do, what issues and what are used for what issues, does that make sense?

Heidi Villegas: It does. So initially, let me discuss important oils for only a second as a result of I do each. And yeah, humorous as a result of not many herbalists who observe herbalism truly observe aromatherapy too and vice versa.
Most aromatherapists don’t observe herbalism, however I even have a number of stills copper stills and I distill my very own important oils oftentimes. Right here’s, yeah. So right here’s, and I began doing that and I simply, had a light-weight bulb second. I appreciated someday, however important oils are merely one other natural extract.
That’s all they’re. Once we put herbs in a alcohol, we extract like, like vanilla extract. You’re truly making a tincture. Similar factor. Important oils are only a steam distillation of the plant. So actually I have a look at important oils as herbalism and that’s that’s my view on it.
Ruth Soukup: No, it’s sort of, it’s only a totally different model of the identical factor, the identical crops, the identical herbs, that every one the distinction.
Heidi Villegas: Yeah, it’s a really concentrated type of the plant matter. So it’s important to be tremendous cautious with them, but it surely’s herbalism nonetheless. And so far as, you already know, what your query was about getting began I’m not going to lie. It’s arduous and it’s as a result of the data has been throttled. And I’m simply going to say this with the rise of AI.
AI is great in a number of methods, however by way of getting details about issues which might be censored, I wouldn’t go there. I’ve truly Googled natural questions so many occasions and I’ve given, been given incorrect solutions, incorrect by AI. So don’t do this. I wouldn’t belief something on Google to be sincere.
It’s the identical,
Ruth Soukup: sorry to interrupt you, but it surely’s the identical factor with all of the stuff that I discuss right here on this podcast, proper? As a result of. The standard well being proper of, Oh, you simply have to rely your energy and eat much less and train extra and go like the usual accepted line, which is all BS, which has made all of us fats and unhealthy and sick for the final 40 years is what you discover.
And that’s why it’s so, that’s why we’re well being rebels right here, Heidi, as a result of it’s counter tradition and it makes me loopy as a result of I believe. That is truly what works. And we’re and the proof in our society is that 80 % of individuals are chubby. Everyone’s sick. Everyone’s on medicine. Like what we’re doing shouldn’t be working.
Does no person see that? Does no person see that right here? Like, clearly, like, I don’t even have to love, be a conspiracy theorist to have the ability to have a look at society and know That this what we’re doing shouldn’t be working. Let’s discover a totally different method.
Heidi Villegas: Hallelujah. I didn’t know No, I completely agree. And I really like listening to you discuss this.
And I believe you’re very courageous. I’m not courageous sufficient but to get on the market. You’re speaking right here. Yeah, precisely. However you already know, possibly I’ll with a few of the shifts which were happening.
Ruth Soukup: I’d ask you about that. Like, what do you suppose now about like Maha, proper? Like, and that is like, let’s put all politics apart.
I don’t actually discuss politics. I’m fairly enthusiastic about make America wholesome once more. I need to say I’m as a result of it’s every part that we discuss on this podcast on a regular basis. And now it’s popping out in like, I believe it’s opening up the dialog not less than, however that’s going to alter the laws like for what you do.
And no,
Heidi Villegas: I actually, I actually don’t. I do suppose that by way of some meals, some cosmetics, some residence merchandise, which launch endocrine disruptors and every part else into our our bodies by means of inhalation and pores and skin use. I do suppose a few of that may shift and alter, particularly as a result of over in Europe, they’ve such their guidelines and their legal guidelines are a lot, a lot more healthy for the individuals.
And so they’re far more stringent about issues like cosmetics use and what toxins are allowed and never allowed right here in America. It’s a free for all and it’s all in regards to the cash and it’s all about, you already know, who’s getting wealthy and who’s not and the individuals are struggling. The individuals are completely struggling.
I get actually indignant after I take into consideration conditions I had with my kids well being clever, as a result of once more, you already know, my youngsters have been born within the eighties, a extremely very long time in the past these days, however. I, it’s like I didn’t know what to do about colic. If I had recognized that I might have drunk a cup of chamomile tea half-hour earlier than I nursed my child, he in all probability would have been quite a bit much less, he would have had much less ache and I’d have had much less ache.
Simply little issues like this that we simply have misplaced, Ruth. It’s loopy. And now, meals. Yeah, they’ve they’ve made our meals poisonous. I do know,

Ruth Soukup: I do know. I discuss that on a regular basis, however I imply, simply fascinated with like what you’re saying, like my identical factor, my daughter, my youngest daughter cried for the primary three years of her life.
And now we all know she had allergic reactions and all these things. And, It was in all probability comparable issues, proper? There’s a lot that I might have finished. Had I recognized who is aware of what I used to be consuming or not consuming. And I look again at footage of my pantry considering that I used to be consuming high quality. And it was like, I cringe now.
After which simply this week, a brand new, I simply learn an article of that. Now, all these younger individuals are being identified with colon most cancers and so they’re One of many causes is due to all of the seed oils. Proper? However what occurs while you go to the grocery retailer? In case you go to the grocery retailer and also you have a look at all of the oils, what ones say coronary heart wholesome on them?
It’s the shit ones, proper? It’s ones which might be horrible for you and are making you sick. And but the labels on them make these appear to be they’re the great alternative. And that’s disgusting. That’s disgusting about our society. It’s. It’s, Yeah. After which once more, I say like, all it’s important to do is have a look at the outcomes of our, of what has occurred in our society and what we’re getting.
And if and no, one thing is incorrect, this isn’t working like essential considering expertise would inform you no matter we’re doing shouldn’t be the reply. So let’s strive one thing else. Okay.
Heidi Villegas: Ruth, you’re so proper. And it’s even the identical with simply regular over-the-counter drugstore medicine. It’s the identical actual factor as with our meals.
Do you know that the DM, the dextromethorphan that’s in cough syrup, it’s a semi narcotic? And youngsters have truly realized learn how to get excessive with it. It’s not supposed for use with kids beneath the age of six, and but I’ve seen labels for the cough syrups for teenagers, little kids two years previous, dosage quantities.
It’s nuts. Acetaminophen, which, you already know, all of us simply love for as a ache reliever. It’s truly the primary killer of people that die from liver illness. It’s not alcohol. It’s acetaminophen. We’re taking issues and a few of us quite a bit, particularly like stuff like Afrin, individuals get hooked on that stuff.
There, there’s a greater method. There’s a pure, higher, mild, and more practical method. to take care of our meals, our our bodies, our life, our medicines, the issues we want for blood stress. I managed, have you learnt what? Now we have not taken any prescription or over-the-counter medicine in happening 15 years now. And it’s, completely modified our life.
And the factor is that I’ve my medicines. Yeah. I’ve what we want.
Ruth Soukup: You guys can’t see what I’m . Trigger we’re on video proper now, however she’s received little jars behind her, like a 18th century. It’s cute. Like that, all of the, like all of the little herbs and jars. So when she’s pointing at her pharmacy, I’m describing it.
She’s pointing at her pharmacy behind her. It’s a number of jars.
Heidi Villegas: My pharmacy is definitely quite a bit greater than that. That is only for present, however actually it’s a number of enjoyable. And my college students, what occurs is with my college students come into my world for a few causes. Primary, I’ve received a number of younger mothers who need to be taught this, these expertise for his or her youngsters and their households and train their youngsters at a youthful age, which I simply love that.
That makes me simply so pleased after I see younger individuals waking up going, such as you mentioned what are we not? , understanding right here. It’s a multitude on the market. So I get younger mothers. I become older individuals coming to me who’re like of their forties and fifties and so they’re beginning to expertise well being issues.
And so they’re like, wait a minute, the medicine aren’t working. This isn’t the place, you already know, the medical doctors, I imply, I had medical fail after medical fail. And it’s, I get so mad and it’s like, they need one thing totally different. So they arrive and so they need to be taught herbalism too. After which I’ve received a number of homesteaders who wish to be self reliant after which I’ve received a It’s a small crowd of preparedness individuals.
So preppers. I’ve a little bit
Ruth Soukup: tiny little bit of prepper in me. I
Heidi Villegas: do too. I do too.
Ruth Soukup: Tiny bit. Not quite a bit. I’m not like excessive. However a little bit bit. Only a
Heidi Villegas: little. In
Ruth Soukup: case all of it goes south. I need to be okay.
Heidi Villegas: Precisely. I’m there with you.
Ruth Soukup: I really like that. So like, I, simply going again to what you have been saying in regards to the like over-the-counter stuff, proper?
Like we expect as a result of it’s bought over-the-counter, you don’t even want a prescription for it. Oh, it have to be protected. It’s high quality. It’s no massive deal. It’s no massive deal. It’s no massive deal. And in addition I believe instinctively, or possibly like, What we consider is that any person on the market within the authorities or in these FDA and all of the regulate regulatory our bodies like they’ve our again, proper?
Like they’re looking for us that certainly they wouldn’t enable us to have stuff that was not okay for us. And but I believe that’s a number of the dialog that has come out the previous couple of years, particularly publish COVID. And now what’s popping out in regards to the fact about COVID and the way it was originated and the way, and even what the response was and what they might will let you say and what they wouldn’t will let you say.
I imply, this report that simply got here out from Congress, mainly saying that. All the things all people was saying was proper. The masks weren’t efficient, that they really made issues worse, that social distancing was not efficient. And it truly was horrible for teenagers and preserving them residence from faculty and all of these things, proper, that I used to be afraid to say out loud, however undoubtedly mentioned in my non-public circles has all been confirmed to be.
the case. So now it’s nearly this factor too, of like, how can we, who can we even know learn how to, who to belief if our, if the those who we’re trusting to look out for us, medical doctors and companies and FDA and all of those individuals which might be speculated to have our again are literally permitting us to take issues which might be making us sicker.
Heidi Villegas: , I do know precisely what you imply. It’s a number of indoctrination. , individuals are indoctrinated from the time they’re born. And if their mother and father have been indoctrinated already, it’s simply, it’s a misplaced trigger till any person wakes up and goes, Okay, I have to be taught extra about this, that or the opposite, and what’s happening.
, it’s, and the way do you resolve the issue? Effectively, you begin studying. , when you get up to what’s going on on the earth, and hopefully an increasing number of individuals will, particularly with Maha, glad you talked about that you then begin studying. And sadly, the one method, one of the best ways, and the quickest method is to get right into a program, like individuals get into your Thinlicious.
They need to take cost of their well being by means of their meals and meals is our first medication. Then often individuals, hopefully individuals will take it a step farther and go, you already know what, possibly these medicine aren’t the perfect issues. What do I do as a substitute? Oh gosh, these crops work. They work, they’re confirmed and an increasing number of medical research are literally being finished on them.
The issue there’s that with massive pharma, waking as much as the truth that individuals are waking up they’re now beginning worry ways. Like, for those who take lavender important oil and also you’re a younger boy, you’re going to have, you already know, boobs. Effectively, no, that’s an enormous fable. And you already know, and I’ve listened to sufficient analysis and research and conferences in addition to learn them.
It’s an entire fable and it’s a lie. We’re being lied to. Again and again in various alternative ways
Ruth Soukup: and over and I believe it’s nearly that such as you, you go down the rabbit gap otherwise you pull the thread or one thing you already know what I imply such as you, there’s like a gate. I suppose it’s a play on phrases but it surely’s like a gateway drug like for me.
It was. Dropping pounds, proper? Like I simply wished to drop extra pounds and I couldn’t perceive why it was so arduous and why I used to be attempting so arduous and doing all of the issues and doing all of the issues that everyone at all times mentioned to do, like rely your energy and eat much less and train extra and do extra, you get extra cardio.
Why it simply was not working. I couldn’t perceive it. Trigger I’m not, I imply, you already know, me for a very long time, Heidi, I’m not an unmotivated individual. I’m not a, I’m not an individual who doesn’t strive arduous. And like, after I go all in, I’m like, I’m all in, proper? Wish to the purpose of like, like dial it again. That’s what my husband says, like dial it again.
And also you’re getting a little bit once more. However for actual, like that’s how It began for me was purely simply, I need to match into my skinny denims once more, proper? Like I at all times joke about that. I wasn’t, I didn’t care about that a lot about feeling wholesome, despite the fact that I did really feel like crap, I didn’t actually essentially affiliate it.
I simply, you already know, with prefer it was that it was all linked, which it was, however I didn’t see that what I, it was very superficial of, I don’t be ok with my physique and I need it, I need to look good once more. And so I, and so from that perspective. Additionally, sorry, this can be a little tangent.
Heidi Villegas: That’s okay. I received
Ruth Soukup: to get this out.
It’s like remedy for me. However from that perspective, proper, of simply desirous to look good, I completely perceive why individuals take Ozempic, proper? Like why they’re like, I’m simply taking it. As a result of if I, if that had come out and thank God that it didn’t come out. Like till after I had actually gone by means of my well being transformation as a result of I’d have been first in line.
I didn’t care about all these things. I wasn’t into all of the pure. I wasn’t nervous about like, it didn’t actually matter to me that a lot. I simply wished to be skinny. And so no matter it took to get me there, if it was doing a, you already know, 10 day juice cleanse or no matter crappy food regimen I might give you, that’s what I cared about.
Yeah. After which as I began studying, proper? Like that was, in order that was the gateway drug for me and it was completely superficial. However as I began actually digging into it and going, wait a minute, every part that I’ve ever been informed about weight reduction is a lie. What else have I been lied about? Proper? Like what else is what am I being lied about?
And wait, all of that is truly my hormones. And it’s not simply the meals that I’m consuming and the toxins in my meals and the crap the crappy stuff that I’m consuming. It’s. Really, the entire stuff round me and we, the entire medicines are additionally contributing to break my intestine well being and maintain me sick.
And
Heidi Villegas: you
Ruth Soukup: go, holy crap. And so now I’m on this podcast ranting like a lunatic as a result of I simply need it to be skinny. And I prefer it opened up. An entire new world of realizing that we’ve all been lied to, that massive meals is mendacity to us, that massive pharma is mendacity to us, and that for those who actually actually need to be wholesome, like return to nature, primary.
And quantity two, cease believing all of the lies and simply nourish your physique with actual complete issues.
Heidi Villegas: That’s precisely proper. In all of the methods, in skincare, along with your fluids, every part, all of it you already know, oh my gosh. I really like speaking to a like minded individual. It’s so
Ruth Soukup: true. I do know individuals are in all probability listening to this proper now going, Ruth’s on a tear in the present day.
I do know I’ve had a number of espresso, guys. Sorry. A number of espresso in the present day. So let’s return to the herbs, proper? So in case you are considering like, okay, herbs, yeah, I need to be extra pure. I don’t need to, I don’t, I wish to eliminate medicines, like even the outer over-the-counter stuff, however this simply feels overwhelming.
Like what’s like, what’s the place to start out? Like, what are some sort of easy Issues that you would do which might be in another way that may make a huge impact.
Heidi Villegas: It is dependent upon you already know, what you’re keen to speculate money and time, proper, however these are at all times the 2 investments that individuals have to take a look at.
And in case you are on a extremely tight finances. And also you don’t have some huge cash. I’m simply going to say go to my YouTube channel or my web site. I’ve actually received a whole lot of movies. I’ve received a whole lot of articles and you may truly begin trying. I’ve received an index on my web site within the get to know us part and folks can truly begin cures which were formulated by me and have been confirmed to work with totally different individuals.
Now I simply need to say right here, not I’ll, that is, I received to speak about actually fast the distinction between medication, allopathic physician medication versus natural medication. In case you’re an excellent herbalist, you’re not considering allopathically. You’re not fascinated with, okay, what tablet with a health care provider, it’s going to be okay.
What’s incorrect with you? Right here’s a tablet masks, the symptom simply could get the individual extra comfy. That’s all that issues. Herbalists. need to heal the physique. So what we are likely to do is have a look at every particular person individual and take into consideration their structure. Do they run scorching? Do they run chilly? Do they’re they dry?
Are they moisture? We’re all totally different. We’d like various things. And so a holistic herbalist will have a tendency to take a look at all that after which select totally different herbs and crops and formulate them for the person. Now, with that mentioned, for those who’re coping with one thing that’s like, like an ongoing problem, like sleep, all it’s important to do actually is work out which herbs be just right for you sleep clever, dial them in, and you then’ve received your individual personalised, you already know, sleep tincture.
, you are able to do that. So I’ve received a number of recipes on my web site. Folks can simply go and make them and take a look at them. They’re all you guys are Ruth herbalism is very easy. It’s individuals suppose it’s actually arduous. It’s not, it takes actually 5 minutes to make an natural tincture. You dump the herbs in a jar, you pour the alcohol in, you let it soak for 4 to 6 weeks.
You shake it sometimes and also you pressure it off. There you go. You’ve received a tincture. What’s, what do you do with the tincture? Effectively, so proper earlier than we began speaking I’ve a cough and I, I received it from a good friend of mine final week and it’s a, it’s going into my chest. I’m like, okay it’s a bronchial cough.
It’s within the decrease respiratory system. So I’m going to make use of, you already know, I’m utilizing wild cherry bark and Ella marketing campaign primarily, plus a few different issues. So I’ve received my particular cough tincture and I simply, Take a few half a teaspoon by means of, it’s about three dropper fulls, put it beneath my tongue and let it soak in for a little bit bit after which swallow it.
Or if I can’t stand the style, which I really like my tinctures now, however many individuals have hassle taking them at first. So simply dilute them in a little bit little bit of water, only a quarter cup. After which Drink it down and there you go. The factor about herbalism and like issues just like the tinctures, they’re made to get, they’re truly, they what’s it, the alcohol base or the glycerin base soaks into the mucous membranes all through the entire digestive tract beginning within the mouth by means of the esophagus into the abdomen and They work actually quick more often than not.
And guess what they do? Not solely is that this calming my cough, however the compounds in these herbs are literally going to work to assist my physique heal up. And that’s one other factor too. We attempt to go to the basis trigger. Like if it’s a power problem, like an allergy, what’s inflicting it? After which we will go work on that whereas additionally coping with the consolation stage of the acute a part of it.
So It’s a sort of a multifaceted considering course of. So for, however for individuals on a finances, simply begin making stuff, giving it a strive, get into some actually good natural communities, get in. I’ve a free one on my Fb group. I’m not on Fb very a lot, however I do have a few of my group members are in there serving to.
So in case you have questions you would possibly need to ask in there, however once more, I simply need to warning all people. Please don’t belief the stuff you learn on-line. I’ve seen a lot harmful stuff. And I’m going to say, together with my very own group, as a result of I’m personally not monitoring it. At all times double, triple test, you already know, the data earlier than you begin messing with issues.
And I simply additionally need to point out right here with security, for those who’re on medicines like prescriptions, you actually need to be sure that there’s no herb drug interactions as a result of Yeah, okay. So one of many primary main ache killing herbs that lots of people begin utilizing, particularly once they’re new, trigger it’s, all people makes use of it and it’s simple to grasp is willow bark, you already know, and lots of people develop willow of their yards.

I’ve a few totally different willow timber, however. You’ll be able to tincture that and it makes a superb ache reliever. And it’s as a result of get this, that chemical in willow bark that makes it work is the very same spinoff chemical that’s in aspirin. And actually aspirin began off. within the 1800s with the Bayer firm, taking this chemical out of willow and isolating it and saying, Oh, why don’t we simply give individuals the chemical?
Effectively, it made them actually sick. And what they ended up doing then was placing a buffer coating over it, therefore bufferin, after which individuals might truly take it. However Willow bark truly goes by means of two metabolic processes within the physique earlier than it turns into that chemical and it’s a lot safer.
It’s gentler and also you’re getting the entire different compounds from the willow that go to work to assist that compound get into the physique and do what it must do. I imply, It’s loopy. Really, Joe, my husband, simply, I do know individuals can’t see this. This can be a half a gallon
Ruth Soukup: of willow bark tincture. Oh, wow.
Heidi Villegas: Yeah.
Ruth Soukup: And also you simply, once more, you similar to put that beneath your tongue, sort of the identical factor, the way in which that you just have been.
Heidi Villegas: Yeah. You
Ruth Soukup: simply
Heidi Villegas: put it into a little bit tincture bottle and.
Ruth Soukup: I need to return to one thing you mentioned, as a result of it was, it actually caught with me and sort of gave me a light-weight bulb second. Is that, as a result of we truly discuss this. quite a bit on this podcast with regard to meals, proper? That meals is medication in that while you begin to eat the proper issues and lower out all of the poisonous stuff that you just’re consuming, you’re therapeutic your complete physique, proper?
And so that’s going to love, whereas. you already know, there’s the short fixes, the medicines and the issues are designed to masks the signs and make you depending on them in order that it’s important to maintain taking them to maintain experiencing the outcomes. Whereas for those who can truly heal your physique from the within out and eat the proper meals and lower out the toxins and scale back irritation, you’re Insulin resistance and heal your intestine and do all these items.
Then your physique works the way in which that it’s speculated to, while you really feel good. So the entire signs go away. It turns into this very holistic factor, however I don’t suppose I’ve actually essentially considered that by way of medicine, proper? Despite the fact that I discuss it form of, I like when, as a result of I’m nonetheless considering like, oh, effectively, what would you do?
What would you do for those who had a sore foot then? Proper? Like, what do you want, what herb do you utilize for that? And also you’re saying. It’s truly a way more holistic factor. You need to have a look at the physique and have a look at what your physique’s engaged on and work on therapeutic your complete physique. After which the entire signs go away.
Heidi Villegas: I’d love to present you an instance of that. Now we have a number of medical professionals in my household. My daughter, as a matter of reality, is ending her medical diploma this 12 months and going into her residency, which is so bizarre as a result of her pals have a look at her, like, effectively, you’ve received it. Your mother’s an herbalist.
Yeah. They’re taught to not use herbs. They’re informed herbs are dangerous. Inform your sufferers don’t use herbs.
Ruth Soukup: Do you know 70 % of medical faculties are funded by massive pharma?
Heidi Villegas: Oh yeah, completely. They don’t need herbs wherever round. And my daughter did a number of my analysis for me a number of years in the past, earlier than she went off into medical faculty, she spent like an interim interval of like six, seven months at my, with us.
And I mentioned, look, for those who’re going to be right here, you’ll be able to like begin doing a few of my analysis. And I. have been actually open. She used to suppose I used to be a kook, however she noticed the analysis. She noticed that the proof she was writing my a number of my books that I’ve written have been partially written by her and researched by her.
So, yeah it’s actually eye opening for medical professionals once they get so far and I used to be going to, oh yeah, I wished to speak about my daughter in legislation. So she’s at all times been in opposition to herbs. In reality, she received actually mad at me one time. She’s like, Simply take a tablet. She’s like, it simply, it’ll simply go away.
Take a tablet. I’m like, I’m not taking a tablet. Sorry. So we have been within the automotive driving one time. She lives down in Florida and and we, so we had a little bit methods to go and she or he goes, so inform me about, you already know, your faculty. And I informed her in regards to the faculty and I informed her about my course, ditch the pharmacy. And he or she goes, effectively, what’s it?
What do you be taught in ditch the pharmacy? Now she had kids at this level. I’ve received, they’ve two little, two of my grandkids are theirs and she or he’s very all in favour of pure cures proper now, which is sweet. She was asking in regards to the course and. I informed her, I mentioned, effectively, mainly in a nutshell, what I do is I train individuals to create their very own personalized residence apothecary for his or her household.
It’s personalized. So it’s not generic. And mainly you’ll be able to exchange every part that’s in a drug retailer with what I train. I imply, significantly, every part. And he or she goes, proper, she says, okay, she goes, so how do you exchange Tylenol? And I informed her, I mentioned, effectively, I mentioned, you it’s all about the way in which you concentrate on it.
So an herbalist, versus a health care provider, if any person is available in with a ache, they’re simply going to say, take this a lot Tylenol. And generally they’ll put oxycodone with it too, you already know, to energy it up a little bit bit. I mentioned, however an herbalist goes to say, okay, effectively, what sort of ache is it? The place’s it at?
What’s happening? What’s inflicting it? So let’s take an instance. Let’s simply say any person has oh, a headache. All proper, you already know, complications are quite common. An herbalist goes to, or as, or for those who’re working with your individual physique, you’re going to go what’s inflicting the headache? Are my shoulders tense? Is that this a rigidity kind headache?
Am I wired? Okay, in order that’s going to tell which herbs you would possibly use. In case you have a migraine headache, That’s going to tell some totally different herbs that you just would possibly use for those who’ve received a sinus headache. Effectively, you then take care of the sinuses and it’s also possible to take care of the headache on the identical time. And so all of these three totally different sorts of complications, you should utilize totally different herbs and be very efficient with them.
And for those who’re at a loss and also you don’t know what to do, take your willow bark.
Ruth Soukup: If all else fails, simply go to willow. It’s fascinating. Like, I actually suppose that. I imply, clearly it’s greater than you would discuss it in a single podcast episode, however you’ve put all of it collectively in your course. And so, I imply, you mainly did simply inform us about what you do within the drug retailer, however how does any person get to be a part of that?
Heidi Villegas: Effectively, it’s a hybrid course. I like working with my college students I wish to work together with them as a lot as attainable. Normally I’ll do what I name an open spherical two or thrice a 12 months the place we get on stay chats each week so I can actually information them in creating their residence apothecary. And I train from the bottom up, like that is starting, that is like starting household herbalism and we go into the important oils.
So that they’re additionally studying fundamental aromatherapy as effectively. After which I assist individuals plan and set up their apothecary that having the course be a hybrid implies that any person can be a part of anytime and get began on the supplies. It’s very clearly laid out. Our pupil group is totally superb and stuffed with so many very supportive and skilled herbalists and aromatherapists at this level.
So there’s at all times you already know, a method to get solutions to your questions. And if that fails, you’ll be able to simply attain out and chat me. , I really like speaking with individuals, however the The underside line is the purpose, I really feel prefer it took me without end to be taught this. It took me a extremely very long time as a result of I began studying earlier than the web was round.
I believe that’s a blessing now. Yeah, I needed to dig and dig for the data. And my first course was a snail mail course. It was correspondence by means of the mail. I do know it was that way back. And so I simply ended up, you already know, feeling like with, and I’m a instructor. I taught youngsters for near, effectively, 30 some years, so 40 dec 4 a long time for those who rely my preschool educating years.
And so I do know that the quicker you will get any person by means of an idea efficiently with understanding, the higher off they’re going to be and the extra possible they’re going to make use of it of their actual life. So the purpose right here is to get individuals The protection basis first after which get their plan and group prepared after which dive into the drugs making make some selections and we information individuals like what do you suppose, you already know, they’ll ask and lots of people will are available with well being wants and ditch the pharmacy is a course that’s not likely for that.
I’ve one other program for individuals who need greater stage well being assist, however ditch the pharmacy is fairly fundamental. What that mentioned, A lot of my college students are available with points like hypertension or you already know, they’re engaged on their diabetes, which food regimen, proper? Such as you mentioned, you already know, kind two diabetes may be actually cleared up a number of occasions simply with shifts in food regimen and train.
However a number of them have been capable of get off a number of prescribed drugs. Simply. That’s superb.
Ruth Soukup: Yeah. Yeah. So we’ll hyperlink to that in our present notes for these of you who’re listening, in case you are like, I received to get into this ditch the pharmacy so that you could go and get all of the stuff we’ll hyperlink to Heidi’s YouTube channel and to all of the issues she’ll ship us all of the issues we’ll add all of these to the present notes.
I really feel like Heidi we might maintain speaking. without end about this, so that you’ll have to come back again as a result of I don’t really feel like I’ve one other hour’s value of questions for you. However because it’s winter, how about we simply finish with like, if any person comes down with a chilly or flu or no matter and needs to really feel higher.
What do they do?
Heidi Villegas: It is dependent upon the signs. It is dependent upon the symptomology. So primary can be work along with your immune system. Ensure that you’re dealing with that. In case you, and it relies upon, there’s 4 phases of chilly and flu that I like to consider. There’s the primary stage, the place you already know you’re going alongside and issues are good and you’re feeling such as you’re simply getting a little bit sick enhance that immune system take your echinacea that may be the time don’t take echinacea on a regular basis it’s too highly effective individuals don’t understand that there was a time period the place you already know echinacea got here available on the market and all people’s like i’m simply going to take it day-after-day effectively it doesn’t work like that it truly will mess up your immune system on the each day.
So you are taking it proper while you’re beginning to get sick after which elderberry needs to be taken a little bit bit at a time ongoing as a tonic. These two issues proper there together with getting, you already know, sufficient sunshine for vitamin D you already know, taking your zinc, your typical stuff getting sufficient relaxation, you already know, you guys know the life-style factor.
Is step one. The second step is for those who begin getting, you already know, the primary signs, get them get on these instantly, as a result of like I mentioned a minute in the past, a number of these cures, like for sore throat, or for a stuffy runny nostril. These not solely will deal with the stuffy runny nostril and the sore throat, however they’ll truly they’ve received compounds like time, the herb that you will discover within the grocery retailer.
It has an oregano, after all. And rosemary. So I might maintain itemizing them. I needed to guard the designs. Yeah. Yeah. You can begin taking these. They’ll assist the physique heal extra rapidly. And so they’ll additionally care for a few of the signs as effectively. After which the subsequent factor is, you already know, as you’re recovering, don’t cease, maintain taking your echinacea, you would possibly begin feeling higher, however you’ve received to maintain on going for one more, I at all times say every week or two, simply to make sure, as a result of lots of people will begin feeling higher, they cease taking every part, after which now they’re sick once more, and also you get higher Effectively, who’re, you already know, they’re sick for like six months as a result of they simply don’t give their physique an opportunity to relaxation.
There’s a number of totally different, like I mentioned, my web site, my YouTube channel a whole lot and a whole lot of treatment and I cowl. Extensively.
Ruth Soukup: Be careful, Heidi. I is perhaps in there this 12 months as a result of, you already know, I simply introduced this, that subsequent, that 2025, I’m solely going to be working three days every week as a substitute of 5.
Heidi Villegas: I’m like, I need to do this.
Ruth Soukup: Give attention to my homestead right here, which has no animals and Two unhappy little herb crops that do have time. Oh, and I’ve basil. So I’ve three, three unhappy little herb crops,
Heidi Villegas: however someplace I received to start out someplace. Yeah.
Ruth Soukup: So I’m prepared. I’ve been working since beginning three years in the past.
It has been a grind, so it’s time to, it’s time to. work, spend rather less time within the workplace and a little bit extra time exterior. And I’m enthusiastic about that. Effectively, Heidi, this was superb. So thanks a lot. Once more, we might be including hyperlinks to every part that Heidi talked about within the present notes, you guys. So undoubtedly test these out.
Take a look at her Ditch the Drugstore course. If you wish to be taught extra about herbalism, if you wish to change into an herbalist, if you wish to ditch the pharmacy and simply have herbs in your pharmacy which I undoubtedly do. And I’m very enthusiastic about this. So thanks once more, Heidi, and hopefully we will discuss to
Heidi Villegas: you quickly.
Ruth Soukup: All proper, guys, that about does it for this episode. Do not forget that you will discover all of the hyperlinks to every part that we talked about on the present notes. And if you already know any person else who would possibly profit from every part that we talked about in the present day, please make sure you ship it their method. Then make sure you subscribe to the podcast to be notified of future episodes.
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